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A photo of Pope Francis in a frame.

"Once [Pope Francis] finally understood the depth and the toxic nature of clerical sex abuse and its impact on victims … he became very resolute about the type of changes that were required,"
Mr Sullivan said.
Francis sits and speaks in a living room, wearing red glasses and a blue suit.

"It always took the view that victims weren't telling the truth, it always took the view that it had to protect its own — and Francis said that had to change."

St Christopher's Cathedral is the seat of the Catholic Archbishop of Canberra and Goulburn.

"I think a lot of Catholics are going to be nervous over the next weeks until we know who gets selected out of the conclave, and the tone in which that Pope wishes to communicate,"
he said.

Francis smiles while speaking, wearing red glasses and a suit in a darkened room.

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